A Dialogue with those who Disagree with this Site

Why do you differentiate between Sunnis and Shias despite our need for unity?

And how can there be unity between Islam and the rejecters of Islam, or between the followers of Allah and the followers of Satan? Unity, my brother, is not accomplished at the cost of our religion and creed, but rather it should be built on the unity of creed. As the martyr Sayed Qutb said, "And then there was no choice but for the theoretical Islamic base, meaning creed, to manifest itself in a dynamic community since the first moment, with its targets, bringing people back to the Lordship of Allah alone... His Lordship, His governorship, His rule and His laws." And remember that when the People of Israel worshipped the bull, Moses came to them and pulled the beard of his brother Haroon, who apologized to him and said: O son of my mother! Seize (me) not by my beard nor by (the hair of) my head! Truly I feared lest thou shouldst say, ‘Thou has caused a division among the Children of Israel, and thou didst not observe my word!’" </span>(Taha 20:94).
Haroon had decided to leave the Israelis to what they were doing (worshiping the bull) and to wait for the opinion of Moses, because he feared causing the division of the Sons of Israel. So Moses reprimanded him with the harshest of reprimands because it is better for the people to be divided while monotheist than to stay united on polytheism. And we do not forget what is confirmed in Bukhari, that the angels described the Prophet (may Peace Be Upon Him) that he “divided between people”.
And if the people of the Shi'a want unity then why do they oppress Sunnis in their countries? They allow the spilling of their blood, since the days of Qaramitah to our present days in Iran. And know that we were not the ones who started attacking the Shi'a, but they started it. And if their curses and insults were directed to us only, then we would have forgiven them. But their animosity and their curses are directed toward the family of the Prophet (may Peace Be Upon Him) , his wives (the Mothers of the Believers), his sons of law, his companions, and whoever follows his Sunnah. The Shi'a admit that the first person to start cursing the companions (may Allah be pleased with them) was the Jewish Bin Saba, the founder of their sector. So it is not up to us to forgive them and the Prophet (may Peace Be Upon Him) says: God has chosen me and chose for me companions. And he made them for me, so whoever insults them, upon him will be the curse of Allah, His Messenger, and all people. Allah will not accept from him any good deed or sacrifice."
And I remind you of what came in Sahih Muslim about the incident of Ifk that the mother of the believers Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) said:

"So, on that day, Allah's Apostle got up on the pulpit and complained about 'Abdullah bin Ubai (bin Salul) before his companions, saying, 'O you Muslims! Who will relieve me from that man who has hurt me with his evil statement about my family? By Allah, I know nothing except good about my family and they have blamed a man about whom I know nothing except good and he used never to enter my home except with me.' Sad bin Mu'adh the brother of Banu 'Abd Al-Ashhal got up and said, 'O Allah's Apostle! I will relieve you from him; if he is from the tribe of Al-Aus, then I will chop his head off, and if he is from our brothers, i.e. Al-Khazraj, then order us, and we will fulfill your order.'
This hadith indicates the inclusion of the mothers of the believers with the house of the Prophet and his family. It also indicates the mandate of the killing of the ones cussing the mothers of the believers. Further, it shows that the one who defends the ones who curse the mothers of the believers is a hypocrite. And whoever labels with adultery the pure, the good, the mother of the believers, the wife of the Messenger of the Lord of all Worlds, (may Peace Be Upon Him), in this world and the latter day, as it was confirmed by him, then he is from the type of Abdullah bin Abi Salool, the head of the hypocrites, and the condition of the Messenger of Allah, (may Peace Be Upon Him) , says: Oh Muslims, who defends me from those who hurt me in my family! And Allah says:
"Those who annoy Allah and His Messenger - Allah has cursed them in this world and in the Hereafter, and has prepared for them a humiliating punishment. And those who annoy believing men and women undeservedly, bear (on themselves) a calumny and a glaring sin." (Al-Ahzab 33:57-58) So you want to say: "No, we do not defend you, oh Messenger of Allah, against these!" so we become hypocrites defending hypocrites?

Why do you call them the Rafidah (Rejecters)?
We were not the ones who called them that, but they were the ones who invented this name for their group. The story of this name is that they came to Zayed bin Ali bin Alhusain and said: "Denounce Abu Baker so we would follow you." He said: "They are the companions of my grandfather. Instead, I will pledge the allegiance to them." They said: "Then we reject you." So they called themselves Rafidah and the ones who agreed with him and pledge the allegiance to him Zaydiyah. (look in the introduction of Ibn Khaldoon). And their Shaikh Almjlessy in his book "The Seas" (where he mentioned 4 of their hadeeths) also mentioned this name. 
Alklyanee stated in his book "Alrawda min Al-Kafi" (a long testament from Mohammad bin Selman from his father) that Aba Basseer said to Abu Abdul Allah "...may Allah make me a sacrifice for you, that we have been given a nickname that broke our backs and killed our hearts and made our blood legal to be spilled by governors in a Hadith that was told to them by their scholars.”
Abu Abdullah said: AlRafidah?
He said: "yes." Abu Abdullah responded: By the name of Allah, they did not call you that, but Allah called you that..." Volume 8 (The praises of Shia and their classes) Page 28.
But then when it was clear to them that this name is the name of an astray group that the Messenger <im(may Peace Be Upon Him) prophesied the coming of, and ordered the killing of its followers, some of them tried to deny that name. And we call them that for their rejection of Islam, because it was told that Ali bin Abi Taleb said: the Messenger (may Peace Be Upon Him) said, "Near the end of time, a group will come from my nation that is called Rafidah, they reject Islam." Documented in Ibn Hanbal's book. The Hadith that Alklaynee pointed out was what Ali said that the Prophet (may Peace Be Upon Him) said: "Should I tell you about a work that if you do, you will be one of the people of paradise? -and you are of the people of paradise- there will be after us people who are called Rafidah, if you reach them (their time) then kill them for they are polytheists." then Ali said: “There will be after us people who will show our love, lie on our behalf, the evidence of that is that they curse Abu Baker and Omar (may Allah be pleased with them).”

The Shia declare both Shahadas, they pray, make Azan and make the pilgrimage, so how can we label them as Kafers?
And the Murtadeen (apostates- those who spilt from Islam after the death of the Prophet (may Peace Be Upon Him)) whom Abu Baker fought and spilled their blood were witnessing that there is no God but Allah and Mohammad is the Messenger of Allah. They prayed, fasted, and made the pilgrimage ... but all of that did not benefit them while they refused to pay Zakah to the successors of the Prophet (may Peace Be Upon Him) (and Shi'a deny Zakah and they pay the fifth of their earnings to their Imams only). And some of these Murtadeen equaled the Messenger (may Peace Be Upon Him) and Mosaylamah Alkazab (a false Prophet) so their blood became allowed to be spilled and they were out of the religion of Islam, so how about those who raise their Imams to the level of God, and claim that the Imams know all the knowledge that came out to the Angels, Prophets and Messengers, and that the Imams know what was written and being written (the Unseen), and that the Imams have the knowledge of when they will die and they die by their choice only. And this goes against the Ayah:"Verily the knowledge of the Hour is with Allah (alone). It is He Who sends down rain, and He Who knows what is in the wombs. Nor does anyone know what it is that he will earn on the morrow: nor does any one know in what land he is to die. Verily with Allah is full knowledge and He is acquainted (with all things)." {Luqman 31:34}. But these are from the same type of Shi'a whom Ali bin Abi Taleb has burned as was confirmed in Saheeh Bukhari.
It was reported in the two Saheeh books that the Prophet (may Peace Be Upon Him)said about the Khwarej (outsiders), "Wherever you see them kill them. If I reach their time, I will kill them like the people of 'Aad" that with the fact that they were some of the people worshiping the most, to the point where some of the companions looked down on their own prayers on comparison to the prayers of the Khwarej. And they got their knowledge from the companions. But they were not benefited by testifiying to “no God but Allah”, or by their bountiful acts of worship, or by their embracing Islam, due to their labeling the companions as Kafers.
And I would like to use as a witness one of the scholars of the Shia Shi'a, Ne'mat Allah AlJazaeri in his book "Alanwar Alniemanyah", where he wrote, "We did not get together with them -the Sunnah- on Allah or the Prophet or the Imams, because they say: that their Lord sent Mohammad as a Prophet and his successors is Abu Baker, and us, the Shi'a, do not believe in this Lord Who made the successors of his Prophet Abu Baker, that Lord is not our Lord and that Prophet is not our Prophet"

Isn't it more imperative for us to fight Jews instead of fighting those who testify to ‘there is no God but Allah”?
And how do we seek help from the hypocrites when Allah said about them: "O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire for you to suffer: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom." {Aal-Imran 3:118}

And He also said: "If they had come out with you, they would not have added to your (strength) but only (made for) disorder, hurrying to and fro in your midst and sowing sedition among you, and there would have been some among you who would have listened to them. But Allah knoweth well those who do wrong. " {9:47}.

Plus, have you forgotten that the Messenger of Allah (may Peace Be Upon Him) fought the Jews even though they witness that there is no God but Allah? Or have you forgotten that the founder of this sector is Bin Saba'a the Jew; and that these Shi'a were always allied to Jews, Crusaders and all the enemies of this nation throughout history? Therefore, is saying, "no God but Allah" enough?
And I would like to go back once more to the word of Abu Baker against the Murtadeen (whom the Shi'a are satisfied with). Mathna bin Hareth Alshaybany chases them until they entered Mada'aen, which is a Persian province. Abu Baker corresponded with him and asked him for clarifications regarding his chase and entrance to Persia, so Mathna answered saying: “I fear to be stabbed in the back, if I am safe in my rear I would fight them even if they seek refuge in Kesra's palace.”
I end my discussion with what Mathna said in his answer to Abu Baker, may Allah be satisfied with him, in which he mentioned fearing an attack from behind! So do I feel that the Muslims today are safe from these back stabbers? Nations are attacking the Muslims from every direction like hungry people coming to a plate of food. Whatever Muthana feared we should fear a thousand folds today, in each outpost and front, especially because today our chests are exposed to our enemies and our backs are open to every backstabber and traitor. But even more so, there are amongst us people who call on help from other monotheists - who add nothing but weakness to us - and who call on us to leave our backs open to every sinner and deviated pervert.
Yes, Salah Aldeen Alayoby fought the Shi'a before fighting the Christians, even more so, he annihilate the Abiedy State (Fatimad) before fighting the Crusaders. And if it were not for that, it would have been impossible for him to liberate Jerusalem. And with help from Allah and then help from Salah Aldeen Alayoby, there is not a single Shi'a in North Africa now, although it was under the influence of their misguidance for many years. Due to the existence of the Fatimad State, the Crusader state existing in Palestine, the Shi'a state in Iran today and due to the fragmentations of Muslims, the Jewish state exists in Palestine. Because this fragmentation and this breakup is painful for us, then the existence of the Jews and the Shi'a as states in the heart of the Muslim world is equally painful. Ignorant voices are raised then voices that are oblivious to our history call for unity with the Shi'a. This is a grand disaster that extends life to the tragedy of the Muslim world and is an obstacle in the way of their unity and their rise as a good nation. This is a nation that should rise to give to humanity, refuse the aid of the devils, worships one Lord and does not worship anything with Him.
This is a testimony from history that shows that the Shi'a are a cause in the failure of the Muslims in continuing their conquests. Even historians mentioned that the Khalifa in Istanbul had to withdraw their conquering armies from the gateways of Vienna (capital of Austria) due to an attack from the Shi'a of Iran. So how much good was ruined at the hands of Imams sitting on thrones, fooling us with the good word, “No God but Allah and Mohammad is the Messenger of Allah” then stabbing us in the back? It is mandatory to fight the Extremist Shi'a before fighting the Jews and the Christians because the danger of the Jews is known because they are Jews and the same with the crusaders. But the Shi'a pray toward our Kaba, eat from what we slaughter, pray our prayers and then they stab us in the back after they fool the fools amongst us.

But some Shaikh said that Shia are not Kafers?
Is it a matter of opinions and trends? We have explained to you Allah's ruling in Shia (from Quran and Sunnah) and we attached to that what was said by the early Muslims, and the latter generations and their consensus, that the Shi'a are Kafers. And among these we mentioned: the Messenger of Allah (may Peace Be Upon Him) , Omar bin Al-khattab, Ali bin Abi Talib, Imam Abu Hanifah, Imam Shafi'i, Imam Malik, Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal, Bukhari, Ibn Hazm, Alandalssy, Alghazali, Judge Eyad, Sheik Alislam Ibn Taymeh, Ibn Katheer, the scholar Ibn Khaldoon, Ahmad bin Youness, Judge Shareek, bin Mubarak, Bin Aljawzyeh and many more. Even more, Ibn Hanefah and Ibn Taymeyah ruled that whoever denies that the Shi'a are Kafer is a Kafer himself. And amongst the modern ones: All of the scholars of the Arab peninsula, Abu Ala'ala Almaudodi (Pakistan/Bangladesh), Bahjah Al Bettar (Syria), Alhelaly (Morocco), Albany (Syria/Jordan), Mustafa Alsebai (the founder of  The Muslim Brotherhood in Syria), Albasheer Alibrahimi (Algeria), Muhib Aldeen Alkhateeb (India), Alghazali and Mohammad Rasheed Reda (both are from Egypt and they were some of the strongest advocate for closeness, then they turned against Shia) and many more. But you want us to not believe them and follow some Shaikh instead? May Allah distance us from this.
Be aware my brother or sister that whoever obeys the scholars and their rules, in forbidding what Allah made permissible and allowing what Allah has forbidden, then they are worshipping Lords beside Allah just like the Jews and Christians did before. And I begin to wonder at the reply of some people when I pose to them this point:

"Allah said this, his Messenger said this, and this is what the companions- the masters of all generation- also said." they tell me:
"But my Shaikh told me that on his Shaikh said otherwise, and the Shaikh for me is the most important source."

So if this is the deal, is it allowed for us to keep it a secret in order to avoid trouble?
May Allah distance us from such ideas! How can we do that and Allah the Lord of all said in Surat Albaqarah: {2:174-176}, “Those who conceal Allah's revelations in the Book, and purchase for them a miserable profit, they swallow into themselves naught but Fire; Allah will not address them on the Day of Resurrection, nor purify them: Grievous will be their penalty. They are the ones who buy Error in place of Guidance and Torment in place of Forgiveness. Ah! what boldness (they show) for the Fire! (Their doom is) because Allah sent down the Book in truth but those who seek causes of dispute in the Book are in a schism Far (from the purpose)." And He said in Ayah 159, "Those who conceal the clear (Signs) We have sent down, and the Guidance, after We have made it clear for the People in the Book, on them shall be Allah's curse, and the curse of those entitled to curse," and He also said in Surah Aal-Imran, "And remember Allah took a Covenant from the People of the Book, to make it known and clear to mankind, and not to hide it; but they threw it away behind their backs, and purchased with it some miserable gain! And vile was the bargain they made!" {4:187}
The Messenger of Allah (may Peace Be Upon Him) said, "If innovations start to appear and my companions are insulted, let the scholars present their knowledge [to people]. And whoever does not do that upon him will be the curse of Allah, His Messenger, and all people. Allah will not accept from him any good deed or sacrifice".

And he also said, "When the latter generations of this Ummah curse its first generations, if someone conceals a Hadith, he has concealed what Allah has revealed." (Ibn Majah). And warning from what they are doing is not enough. It is a prohibition for any Muslim to take them as allies or friends, or a curse will come on the nation like the curse that came upon the Jews. "Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses. Nor did they forbid one another the iniquities which they committed: evil indeed were the deeds which they did. Thou seest many of them turning in friendship to the Unbelievers. Evil indeed are (the works) which their souls have sent forward before them (with the result), that Allah's wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide.” {5: 78-80}
The Messenger of Allah (may Peace Be Upon Him) said: "If one of the people of Israel saw his brother sinning, he would advise him so he won't be punished by Allah (for not forbidding the evil). And then the next day, his brother's sin would not prevent him from eating and mixing with him and even being his partner. When Allah saw that from them, he hit their hearts with each other and cursed them on the tongue of David and Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses."
After all of this, how can anyone want to hide and keep secret what Allah has given us from knowledge? By Allah we will never do that.

Isn't it time to forget the past and to end this struggle that has lasted 1400 years? Is there a chance for closeness?
Well, is there an end to the struggle between good and evil, or between the supporters of Allah and supporter of the devil? And have the Shi'a regretted their criminal history against Islam or have they stopped their animosity toward Islam? If their curses were directed at us we would forgive them, but these curses are directed toward the Messenger's family, his wives, sons of law and his companions, so how do we forgive that? This struggle will continue, as our beloved Prophet told us, until the coming out of the Dajal. Then the Muslims will kill him and they will kill his followers from the Jews, the polytheists and the Shi'a.
How can closeness be possible with those who believe in changing the book of Allah and allege that their Imams receive Godly books after the Quran, or with those who see that the Imams are higher than the Prophethood? How can we be close to those who say the Imams are like Prophets, explain worshiping Allah alone (which is obeying the Messengers) in a way different from the original context, allege that it means obedience to the Imams, define polytheism as obeying others with the Imams, call the companions Kafers, curse the Messenger’s wives (who are the mothers of the believers), and rules that the companions all left Islam after the death of the Prophet except 3 or 4 or 7 depending their different opinions? Also, they deviate from the creed of the Islam due to their belief in the Imams, their infallibility, Tiqyah, and they believe in the come back, the disappearance, and the beginning? I advise my brothers and sisters to read the speech of Shaikh Alhuthaifi (given in front of the Massjed of the Prophet) about closeness between Sunnah and Shia.
The most important thing to know: In the past the extremists of the Tafidah were the minority, but today they are all extremists without any exception. This was acknowledged by one of their biggest swindlers… oh, I am sorry, I should say…. by one of their biggest scholars in the field of evaluations of men (Ayatullah almamqany). In every biography about one of these extremists, he claimed that what was considered extremism during the old generations has now become a necessity for today’s sector. And it is known that the scholars of Sunnah have called the old extremists of the Shia kafers and that is how we know about the latter generations.


 What do we tell those who seek closeness?

The issue of closeness between Shia and Sunnis is one of the issues that are presented always by some writers who label themselves as enlightened. But who-so-ever has his vision enlightened by Allah would not doubt that the past and current creed of the Shia is against the creed of Sunnis, the majority of Muslims and the early Muslims.
We wonder when someone makes light of this matter and describes us as strict and extremists. To anyone desiring closeness between Sunnis and Shias we say: We will agree with you and we will respond to you on one condition, that we use an arbiter, the book of Allah and the correct and confirmed Sunnah of his Prophet, because Allah ordered us to do so when we disagree, “... (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger..." [4:59]
We also say to those who want closeness: How can we be close while they  question the Quran? And never mind their denial because it is confirmed in their books.  They even claim that a surah called “Surah Alwaleya” is part of the Quran. This exposes them and shows their lies. So by Allah, who do we believe? Do we believe the Great One who guaranteed the up keep of his book,"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption)." {15:9} or do we believe them and throw the book of Allah behind our backs?
We say also to those who want closeness: How do we get close to those who curse the best we have ever had and the best of all people after Prophets and messengers? How do we get close to those who curse Abi Baker and Omar and Uthman? It is even confirmed in the books of the Shi'a that they judged all Sahaba to be Murtadeen and Kafers, and they make exception only for few like Abi Zar, Bilal, Almikdad and Salman may Allah be satisfied with them.  By cursing the sahaba, they curse those who passed down the message of Islam after the Prophet. If they curse them and call them kafers, then who carried this jurisprudence (Quran and Sunnah) aside of them? And as some of those before us said: they want to defame our witness. So, if we believe this in relation to the companions of the Prophet (may Peace Be Upon Him), may Allah distance us from that, then how do we trust what they carried to us and how do we believe in what they said? Oh nation of Mohammed, where are your minds?
We also say to those who want closeness: How do we get close to those who accuse our mother, Aysha may Allah be satisfied with her, of committing adultery while she is pure and innocent from committing that? Allah pronounced her innocent from above the seven heavens by sending down verses that will be read until the day of resurrection! So they insist on disbelieving the Quran, and whoever disbelieves in the Quran is a Kafer.

If the Shia believe in changing the Holy Qur'an then they will not believe you at all. Don’t you hear the words of Allah swt, "Do you then hope that they would believe in you, and a party from among them indeed used to hear the Word of Allah, then altered it after they had understood it, and they know (this). ”{2:75} So why waste time arguing with them?

Brothers and sisters, you might have forgotten what Allah swt said regarding the Jews, "They say, ‘Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah's Word: we need no more).’ Nay, Allah's curse is on them for their blasphemy: Little is it they believe." {3:88}. Notice His saying  “little is it they believe,” meaning that a very small minority of them enter Islam. And we have learned that from these Jews came the mother of the believers Safya, may Allah be satisfied with her, and the great companion Abdul Allah bin Salaam, may Allah be satisfied with him, and many more who are esteemed in Islam. If the Jews were like that then how about the Shi'a?

Why do you preach to people whom Allah will destroy or torture severely?

"To discharge your duty to your Lord, and perchance they may fear Him." Have you forgotten, dear brothers and sisters, the story of the people of Saturday? They were 3 groups: A group that overstepped its boundaries on Saturday and these are the sinners, a group who did not do the sin but they did not criticize it and they did not boycott those who committed it, and a group that advised them to stay away from sin, encourage them to do good, boycotted them, and went even further by building a wall between them so they would not intermix with them. So when Allah's punishment came, Allah mutated the first two groups into monkeys and pigs and saved the ones who preached against sin as Allah swt said, "When they disregarded the warnings that had been given them, We rescued those who forbade Evil; but We visited the wrong-doers with a grievous punishment because they were given to transgression." {7:165}
Also, we have mentioned the story of how two of their greatest scholars reverted, Ayatu Allah abu Alfadel Albarka'e and Kasrawi, and the story of the reversion of one of their youth. There is also their great scholar Dr. Mousa Almusawi, and there is an Iranian Rafidi who has reverted on my hands personally. Allah swt revealed that Pharaoh will never believe in the message of Mousa, but He still ordered Mousa to deliver the message to Pharoah so that it may be used as evidence against him. Thus, delivering the message is mandatory upon all of us and if none of us do it then all of us are sinners. So thank Allah my brothers and sisters that there are some who take care of this mandate by preaching to these people and by advising them against such sins.

At the end, there is only one question left: who are you?
We are of the victorious group that sticks to the teachings of our beloved Prophet Mohammad, the most complete prayers and greetings be upon him. We belong to the saved group, insha Allah, that the Messenger (may Peace Be Upon Him) mentioned when he said:
"The Jews were split up into seventy-one or seventy-two sects; and the Christians were split up into seventy one or seventy-two sects; and my community will be split up into seventy-three sects. All of them are in the Hell-fire except one." They said, "And who are they, O' Messenger of Allah?" He said, "What I and my companions follow."
And insha Allah we are the followers of the righteous, whom Allah swt said about them, "And those who came after them say: ,Our Lord! Forgive us, and our brethren who came before us into the Faith, and leave not, in our hearts, rancor (or sense of injury) against those who have believed. Our Lord! Thou art indeed Full of Kindness, Most Merciful.’" (59:10)
And insha Allah we are of those who follow the middle path, who do not hate the companions of the Prophet as the Shia and Khawarij do, and of those who do not worship their grave sites instead of worshiping Allah (as some Sufis do). Insha Allah we are on the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah (may Peace Be Upon Him) and on the guidance of the early generation. We are from the people of Sunnah and Jama’a.